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Dominion Theology... The Stench And Foul Smell Of Joel’s Army

Section VI: Do Miracles Produce Faith?

Carol Brooks

Index To All Sixteen Sections

Section 1: History, Beliefs and Spread
Section 2: Manifest Sons Of God
Section 3: C Peter Wagner and The New Apostolic Reformation ... The Five-Fold Ministry
Section 4: Genuine New Testament Apostles Or Deluded Con Men
Section 5: Biblical Accountability and Authority
You Are Here 001orange Section 6: Do Miracles Produce Faith
Section 7: Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare (SLSW)
Section 8: Identificational Repentance
Section 9: Portals
Section 10:  Civil War
Section 11:  Phinehas Spirit
Section 12:  Excuses For Gullibility
Section 13:  The Bible Vs. Dominion Theology
Section 14:  More Examples of The Leadership’s Inventive Interpretations of Scripture
Section 15:  A Sinister Twist
Section 16: Fate of Joel’s Army

 

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A Preoccupation With Mystical Phenomena
Thousands That Witnessed Miracles But Did Not Believe

Why Then Did Jesus and The Apostles Perform Miracles?

The Origin And Definition of Faith

Is God The Only One That Can Heal?
Deceiving Signs and Wonders… From Deuteronomy to Revelation
Revival or Awakened Kundalini?

Signs and Wonders and The Will of God
Peter and The “Sure Word”

Section VII: Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare & Territorial Spirits

 

A Preoccupation With Mystical Phenomena
C Peter Wagner coined the term Third Wave in his 1988 book The Third Wave of the Holy Spirit, [out of print] to refer to the latest supposed movement of the Holy Spirit to sweep across the globe.  While similar to the Pentecostal and Charismatic waves that preceded it, the Third Wave has some unique distinctions.. The two earlier movements emphasized baptism with the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, while the Third Wave tends to focus more on spiritual gifts for ministry such as prophecy, healing, and spiritual warfare, including expulsion of, “territorial demons”. [See Section VII.. Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare].

In fact a preoccupation with mystical phenomena such as visions and dreams characterizes much of the Third Wave. Third Wavers are persuaded that merely preaching the gospel message will never reach the world for Christ and unbelievers must experience the supernatural in order to be brought to full faith. This is why many of those involved consider those believers that do not share their opinion and experience of the miraculous and the mystical to have a very flimsy and insubstantial kind of Christianity. In fact one gets the impression that no Christian outside of the Third Wave/Signs and Wonders/ Dominionist system is even regarded as a bona fide member of the Kingdom of God.

John Wimber, founder of the Vineyard churches felt that the modern church was too rational and materialistic and therefore not open to the real power of God. He held to the idea that signs and wonders produce faith...

    “Clearly the early Christians had an openness to the power of the Spirit, which resulted in signs and wonders and church growth. If we want to be like the early church, we too need to open to the Holy Spirit’s power” [John Wimber, Power Evangelism, p. 31].

In 1982, he and C. Peter Wagner co-instructed a course at the Fuller Theological Seminary, called “Signs, Wonders and Church Growth”. In the course Wimber said, “Once you’ve healed a person, it’s very easy to lead them to Christ.”

But is it true that evangelism, to be most effective, must be accompanied by miracles?


Thousands That Witnessed Miracles But Did Not Believe
The problem is that Scripture does not validate this belief. In fact it often contradicts it. While I am sure that there are people who have come to faith after seeing or experiencing a miracle, this appears to be the exception rather than the rule. In fact the Bible, in both the Old and the New Testament, records that thousands witnessed miracles but did not believe.

Old Testament
For example, one would imagine that anyone who witnessed the plagues of Egypt and the parting of the Red Sea would forever be a believer. However this was not so.

The author of Hebrews tells us

    Wherefore, even as the Holy Spirit saith, To-day if ye shall hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, like as in the day of the trial in the wilderness, Where your fathers tried me by proving me, And saw my works forty years. Wherefore I was displeased with this generation, And said, They do always err in their heart: But they did not know my ways; As I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest. Take heed, brethren, lest haply there shall be in any one of you an evil heart of unbelief, in falling away from the living God:  [Hebrews 3:7-12]

New Testament

Not only did Jesus and His twelve disciples publically heal any number of people, there are three recorded cases of people being raised from the dead by Jesus.

    Jairus' twelve year old daughter was raised while her body was still in her father's house [Mark 5: 35-43].

    The widow's son was resurrected while his body was being carried to the place of burial [Luke 7: 11-17].

    Lazarus was raised from the dead after he had already been in the grave for four days.

What makes the last miracle especially significant is that Lazarus and his sisters Mary and Martha were obviously were a family of some means [John 11: 47] and lived in Bethany, which was only about two miles from Jerusalem. This miracle was acknowledged as real even by the Pharisees

    The chief priests therefore and the Pharisees gathered a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many signs. [John 11:47] 

However even after all these “Signs and Wonders” there only 120 people in the upper room after the crucifixion. Where were all those that witnessed miracle after miracle?

One of the ‘proof texts’ often used is Mark 16:17

    “ And these signs shall accompany them that believe: in my name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues;”

However, the last few verses in the book of Mark have long been the subject of much controversy, many scholars strongly convinced they are a later addition to the Bible. While some of the text does sound a little odd (for example the bit about handling snakes and drinking poison without effect in verse 18) it is difficult to know for sure whether these verses were part of the original text. Therefore it would be unwise to build doctrine solely around any of these instructions and teachings unless substantiated by other verses in Scripture.  [See Footnote]

So the question has to be asked..


Why Then Did Jesus and The Apostles Perform Miracles?
The miracles performed by Jesus and His Apostles were not meant to establish a pattern for believers, but were meant to confirm that they were who they said they were… The Messiah and the men He chose to establish His church.

    “How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?” [Hebrews 2:3-4].

    This beginning of his signs did Jesus in Cana of Galilee, and manifested his glory; and his disciples believed on him. [John 2:11]

     “If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him” [John 10:37-38].

After the very first miracle done by Jesus at the wedding in Cana, John mentions two purposes for this and other miracles [John 2:11 above]... 1) They provided signs that He was no ordinary man and 2) manifested His glory. There is no doubt that one result of the turning of the water into wine was that the disciples believed in Him, but remember that the disciples had already had much indication of who Jesus was, including John the Baptist's claims about Him. The miracle at Cana probably served to erase any lingering doubt that they may still have had..

However It is clear that even the miracle at Cana was not enough for some of the disciples.. John 6:66 tells us that at one point many of Jesus’ disciples “went back, and walked no more with him”.
The miracles performed by the apostles were also signs.

    And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. [Acts 2:43]

    And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch. [Acts 5:12]

    Long time therefore they tarried there speaking boldly in the Lord, who bare witness unto the word of his grace, granting signs and wonders to be done by their hands. [Acts 14:3]

    Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds” [2 Corinthians 12:12. Emphasis Added].

Were every believer able to equally perform miracles, then the “sign of an apostle” would be completely meaningless. Note that when one of the disciples Dorcas died in Joppa, the believers did not try themselves to raise her from the dead, but instead sent for Peter who was near by in the town of Lydda. Peter of course came immediately and resurrected her. [Acts 9:36-43].

There is no doubt that Acts 9:42 says “And it became known throughout all Joppa: and many believed on the Lord”. There is little doubt that by this time the people of Joppa had also heard of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, the strange happenings on Pentecost, and that the disciples were preaching His Messiahship. Peter bringing Dorcas back to life could but strengthen the truths they had already been exposed to.

    [Joppa, now known as Jaffa, is located 35 miles west of Jerusalem and is today a suburb of Tel Aviv. However in those days it was a very small town. The population of Jerusalem itself is only estimated to be around 30,000 in the days of Jesus, swelling of course to many times that number during the Festivals].

The problem here is that many of the Dominionists believe that

    The last-generation Church will have an Apostolic Reformation that will be as great as the first-generation Apostolic Movement. The first-generation Church prophets and apostles laid the foundation of the Church. Now the last day Apostolic Reformation will put the final finishing touches on the Church. [Bill Hamon, Apostles Prophets and the Coming Moves of God. Destiny Image Publishers (July 1, 1997). Pg. 10]

Since they consider themselves ruling apostles imbued from on high with power to perform signs and wonders it is little wonder that they place so much emphasis on the miraculous. 

Ignoring the fact that the New Testament Apostles, far from mere church planters, were spiritual heavyweights who not only established doctrine and practice in the early church, but wrote virtually all the books of the New Testament. It was on their backs that the household of God was built, for which almost all of them paid with their lives. And yet, carrying delusion and fantasy to unprecedented heights, modern day apostles believe they are superior to those in the New Testament.. this demonstrated by Rick Joyner’s words…

    “You, who have dreamed of one day being able to talk with Peter, John and Paul, are going to be surprised to find that they have all been waiting to talk to you” (Rick Joyner, The Harvest (MorningStar, 1990, p.9)

For Details See Section IV: Genuine New Testament Apostles Or Deluded Con Men
 

Jesus’ Compassion: However it has to be noted that all four of the Gospel writers mention that Jesus was often moved with compassion for the sick and suffering. In other words Jesus did not heal the sick or cast out demons just to draw an audience to hear His pitch and thereby gain a following.

    And he came forth, and saw a great multitude, and he had compassion on them, and healed their sick. [Matthew 14:14] 

    And Jesus, being moved with compassion, touched their eyes; and straightway they received their sight, and followed him. [Matthew 20:34]

    And being moved with compassion, he stretched forth his hand, and touched him, and saith unto him, I will; be thou made clean. [Matthew 1:41]

    And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not. [Matthew 7:13]

    John is tells us that "Jesus wept" when Lazarus died [John 11:35]

The Savior, who so profoundly cared for humanity that He offered Himself to redeem every last person from sin and death was also visibly moved with compassion for a lost people who had no shepherd.

    But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion for them, because they were distressed and scattered, as sheep not having a shepherd. [Matthew 9:36]


The Origin And Definition of Faith
The opening verse of Hebrews Chapter 11, the ‘Hall of Faith’ says [Emphasis Added]

      Now faith is assurance of things hoped for, a conviction of things not seen. [Hebrews 11:1]

Miracles can be seen, but faith is "the evidence of things not seen". This is further elaborated on by Paul in the book of Romans…

    So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” [Romans 10:17].

The record of Acts tells us that

    "the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved" [Acts 2:47].

This addition to the numbers of new Christians was the result of the preaching of the gospel, not through miracles.  Supernatural phenomena certainly can draw people’s attention, but cannot give people faith which, the Bible tells us, comes by hearing and believing God’s Word. In fact these miracles were recorded so that people would believe. It is not necessary that every person experience wonders for themselves.

    “And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name” [John 20:29-31].

    “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works” [2 Timothy 3:16-17].

Lastly the Bible makes some very uncomplicated, unambiguous, straightforward statement about “Signs and Wonders”

    “But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas” [Matthew 12:39].

    “And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead” [Luke 16:30-31].

In the first verse quoted above Jesus said that as Jonah spent three days and three nights in the belly of the fish that swallowed him, so too would He (Jesus) spend three days and three nights in the tomb (before being resurrected) and this was the only sign they would be given. In the second verse Jesus said that even someone rising from the dead would not persuade those that were not already persuaded by hearing Moses and the prophets.

Which brings us to the Million Dollar Question...


Is God The Only One That Can Heal?
The Bible gives us more than word of caution… Miraculous signs were done by Christ and His apostles, but they will also be done by

    even he, whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders [2 Thessalonians 2:9] 

Which does not mean that the miracles are fake, but that they are designed to lead people to believe a lie. This is made abundantly clear by Jesus when He said..

    For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. [Matthew 24:24]

Jannes and Jambres, the Egyptian magicians in Pharaoh’s court were able to do real miracles. Although it seemed that their miracles, were ‘weaker’ in power than those done by Moses, they were nonetheless authentic displays of the supernatural.

Additionally two of the three Greek words used to describe the miracles of Jesus are also used for the miracles of the false christs. (The third word dunamis translated miracles has been discussed here).

    Jesus: For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs (Gk. sēmeion) and wonders (Gk. teras); so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. [Matthew 24:24]

    False christs: Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God unto you by mighty works and wonders (Gk. teras) and signs (Gk. sēmeion)which God did by him in the midst of you, even as ye yourselves know; [Acts 2:22] 

As Al Dager says

    “It's not a question of counterfeit versus real; Satan's miracles are not counterfeits any more than foreign currency is a counterfeit of our own currency. Counterfeit "miracles" are those feats of legerdemain performed by professional magicians, and charlatans who create ruses to bilk people out of money. A miracle from the spirit realm is genuine, whether from God or Satan. Satan's healings are not illusory; they are real. That's what makes them dangerous. The reason people believe teachings when they are accompanied by signs and wonders is that they don't believe Satan or his demons can perform genuine miracles. Therefore they think that any teaching accompanied by signs and wonders must be from God. [1]

Please Watch The Two Videos at The End of This Page.. Healing


Deceiving Signs and Wonders… From Deuteronomy to Revelation
Note that the false prophet in Deuteronomy actually was able to prophesy about something miraculous or supernatural that actually came to pass, but he was still to be put to death for leading people astray. [Emphasis Added]

    If there arise in the midst of thee a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and he give thee a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or unto that dreamer of dreams: for Jehovah your God proveth you, to know whether ye love Jehovah your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after Jehovah your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death, because he hath spoken rebellion against Jehovah your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to draw thee aside out of the way which Jehovah thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee. [Deuteronomy 13:1-5]

And nothing ever changes. The beast from the earth spoken of in the book of Revelation says he will perform great signs which will deceive those that dwell on the earth. [All Emphasis Added]

    And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like unto lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed. And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men. And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived. [Revelation 13:11-14]
     

    And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and them that worshipped his image: they two were cast alive into the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone: [Revelation 19:20]


Revival or Awakened Kundalini?
 Most of the people advocating Signs and Wonders belong to the Toronto, Brownsville and Lakeland type of revivals. However a comparison between the experiences and behavior of the people who get the” Holy Ghost Fire” with disciples of Hindu gurus who have had a spiritual "power" or Kundalini awakening conferred on them leads to some very disturbing conclusions. The requirements for receiving are the same, the methods of transmissions are the same, and the physical manifestations are the same. How then can these “revivals’ be Christian.

A short description of the phenomena in Hinduism…

    Kundalini is a concentrated form of prana or life force, lying dormant in our bodies. It is conceptualized as a coiled up serpent (In Sanskrit kundalini is literally that which is coiled)

    Chakra is the Sanskrit word for wheel. Bodily Chakras are often depicted as circles, spaced at intervals along the spine. They bear a strong similarity in location and number to the major endocrine glands, as well as nerve bundles called ganglions”. Ancient Indian tradition holds that there are seven Chakras, or energy centers. The goddess Kundalini is said to awaken and unfold each chakra as she ascends through the spine, ensuring the free flow of life energy (prana or qi) throughout the body, thus balancing the chakras and promoting general health and well-being.

    Shaktipat or Śaktipāta is a Sanskrit word in the Hindu spiritual tradition that refers to the act of a guru or spiritual teacher conferring a form of spiritual "power" or awakening on a disciple/student. Shaktipat appears in all the world’s major spiritual traditions under different names and can be intermediated by the spiritually enlightened master either by transmission of sacred word or mantra, a look, a thought or by touch. The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called 'Darshan'. At these meetings devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience from a touch by the open palm of the hand, often to the forehead. However The mere presence of a single being whose shakti is strongly active can awaken the Shakti of those around him.

The Result? Kriyas [literally activities] are spontaneous movements that occur after kundalini awakening. There can be extreme emotional outbursts without any apparent cause or source. After a period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual elevation they begin to shake, jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably, sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal noises or laughter as they reach an ecstatic high. These manifestations are called 'Kriyas'. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds of physical signs during this period. Often devotees move on to higher states of spiritual consciousness and become inert physically and appear to slip into an unconsciousness when they lose sense of what is happening around them. This state is called 'samadhi' and it leads to a deeper spiritual experience.'

Sound Familiar?

Todd Bentley, John Arnott and the like think they are hot stuff running around screaming “Bam” and “Fire” , yet the manifestations at Toronto, Brownsville and Lakeland are not a “New Move of God” but have existed for thousands of years. They are a “Very Ancient Move of Satan”.  For thousands of years the manifestations of an awakened kundalini among people of other religions has been exactly the same as the results of being ‘Slain in The Spirit’ or ‘Holy Ghost Fire’ in so called Christian meetings
 

For More Information See Comparison Between Kundalini and the Counterfeit Revivals.
(Be sure and watch the Video at the end of the page)

Also See The Emperor Has No Clothes
Pastors and worship leaders who are totally sincere and devout are producing the same, or very similar, results that hypnotists, frauds, and gurus produce. The phenomena in Eastern religious settings is no different from what has been reported in Christian settings with the evidence being misinterpreted in line with the presuppositions, beliefs, hopes, and desires of the participants. The setting in which one has the experience is a major factors in determining one's interpretation of a mystical experience are... If a church, it will be understood in Christian terms. If an ashram, in Hindu/Buddhist terms. If a hotel ballroom, in secular terms. In addition.. the suggestions made by the authority figure(s) before and during the experience are crucial to the interpretation process.


Signs and Wonders and The Will of God:
And the fate of even those that prophesy, cast out demons and do “mighty works”, but do not do the will of God?

    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. [Matthew 7:22-23]


Peter and The Sure Word.
The apostle Peter experienced miracles far beyond anything that could possible be even imagined by modern day Charismatics, yet he never placed any emphasis on them, choosing instead to turn the attention of his readers to the Scriptures which he called a “Sure Word”.

     “We have also a more sure Word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.” [2 Peter 1:19]

There is no doubt that “a more sure Word of prophecy” refers to the Old Testament Scriptures that foretold and validated Christ’s first coming. There were an overwhelming numbers of prophecies in the Old Testament that pointed toward Christ’s first advent. In other words God’s Word carries infinitely more weight than anything else.

As said by David Cloud

    “The gospel does not have to be perpetually authenticated by signs and wonders. It is solidly established upon the greatest sign ever accomplished, the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Those who do not believe this sign as recorded in the Holy Scriptures will not believe any sign they see with their own eyes. That is what the Bible tells us”. [2]


Section VII: Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare & Territorial Spirits
Another crucial belief of many of the Dominionists is Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare, which has been called possibly the single most important strategy we can utilize in reaching the unreached. In short there are Territorial Spirits or satanic strongholds over cities, countries and communities which must be pulled down before the mighty weapons of the Word and the Spirit are effective. Obviously, in the light of their thinking, the binding and removing of these territorial spirits is an crucial step towards the Christianization of the world, leading to the establishment of God’s kingdom on earth before Christ can or will return. 

The problem is however, that without some serious manipulation of the accounts, the fundamental strategy employed in SLSW is neither found in the Bible nor in church history. Scripture is being re-examined and re-written through the lens of experience, resulting in truths that can not be derived from Scripture alone. Verses in Scripture are being wrested out of context to back up preconceived theories…

Since Biblical example of strategic-level warfare range between scant and non existent, proponents are forced to resort to extra Biblical stories to help shape doctrine.

 

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Foot Note I (Mark 16:9-20)
The last few verses in the book of Mark have long been the subject of much controversy, many scholars believe they are a later addition to the Bible. While some of the text does sound a little odd (for example the bit about handling snakes and drinking poison without effect) it is difficult to know for sure whether these verses were part of the original text. Therefore it would be unwise to build doctrine solely around any of these instructions and teachings unless substantiated by other verses in Scripture.

As said by bible-researcher.com …

    “Mark 16:9-20 has been called a later addition to the Gospel of Mark by most New Testament scholars in the past century. The main reason for doubting the authenticity of the ending is that it does not appear in some of the oldest existing witnesses, and it is reported to be absent from many others in ancient times by early writers of the Church. Moreover, the ending has some stylistic features which also suggest that it came from another hand. The Gospel is obviously incomplete without these verses, and so most scholars believe that the final leaf of the original manuscript was lost, and that the ending which appears in English versions today (verses 9-20) was supplied during the second century. Below are some excerpts from various scholarly sources that conclude that the verses are a later addition.

    Nevertheless, some scholars have not been impressed with the evidence against these verses, and have maintained that they are original. These scholars have pointed out that the witnesses which bring the verses into question are few, and that the verses are quoted by church Fathers very early, even in the second century”. [3] [PLACE IN TEXT]
     

End Notes
[1] Albert Dager. An Examination of Kingdom Theology. http://www.apologeticsindex.org/l02.html

[2] David Cloud. Beware Of The Doctrine That Miracles Produce Faith.
http://www.wayoflife.org/files/dc62ca84d5673f1b1d840bce53ca6dfe-58.html

[3] http://www.bible-researcher.com/endmark.html

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