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Dominion Theology... The Stench And Foul Smell Of Joel’s Army

 Section II: Manifest Sons of God:
The First Core Doctrine of the Dominionist Movement

Carol Brooks

Index To All Sixteen Sections

  Section 1: History, Beliefs and Spread
You Are Here 001orange Section 2: Manifest Sons Of God
Section 3: C Peter Wagner and The New Apostolic Reformation or The Five-Fold Ministry
Section 4: Genuine New Testament Apostles Or Deluded Con Men
Section 5: Biblical Accountability and Authority
Section 6: Do Miracles Produce Faith
Section 7: Strategic Level Spiritual Warfare (SLSW)
Section 8: Identificational Repentance
Section 9: Portals To Heaven?
Section 10:  Civil War
Section 11:  Phinehas Spirit
Section 12:  Excuses For Gullibility
Section 13:  The Bible Vs. Dominion Theology
Section 14:  More Examples of The Leadership’s Inventive Interpretations of Scripture
Section 15:  A Sinister Twist
Section 16: Fate of Joel’s Army





Transfigured “Sons of God”?

And Now

The Manifest Sons Of God Are The “Last-Day Apostles And Prophets”
Defending a Theological Fairy Story...
Bill Hamon’s Interpretation of Romans 8:19 and Hebrews 11:39-40

Francis Frangipane and The Days of His Presence

A Strange Question
The Disciples Impression of The Kingdom
Jesus and The Rapture
The Glory The Disciples Anticipated
The Transfiguration

Section III: The Five-Fold Ministry… The Second Core Doctrine of the Dominionist Movement

Foot Note I: Bob Jones’ vision of The Sands Of Time

Foot Note II: Bob Jones’ Sexual Misconduct.


As aptly said by Barbara Aho

    In your Bible you will want to change the book of "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" to "The Manifestation of the Sons of God."  That’s right, we are not to be looking for the "coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering unto Him."  Nope. That would be an "escapist mentality" to be repented of at once if we would be Overcomers.  Instead, we should be looking forward to the glorification of the Corporate Church, which will become perfect and immortal here on earth before the Second Coming.  In fact, as Jesus comes "spiritually and invisibly" to His Church, He will actually "incarnate" the Corporate Body and reveal Himself to the world through miraculous signs and wonders performed by the "Manifest Sons of God."  [1]

Although it was not a widespread view, some leaders of the Latter Rain movement taught…[All Emphasis Added]

    “…that as the end of the age approached, that the "overcomers" would arise within the Church. These Manifest Sons of God, ones who have come into the full stature of Jesus Christ would receive the spirit without measure. They would be as Jesus was when He was on earth, they would receive a number of divine gifts, including the ability to change their physical location, to speak any language through the Holy Spirit, and would be able to perform divine healings and other miracles. They would complete the work of God restoring man's rightful position as was originally mandated in Genesis, and at last by coming into the full stature of Christ usher in the millennial reign of Christ.” [2]

In the words of Jay Atkinson’s contemporary site devoted to the latter rain doctrine [Emphasis Added]

    We are being powerfully ministered to in these days and many are being confirmed and encouraged as apostles and prophets of the Lord Jesus Christ. This is the foundation with Jesus as the chief cornerstone. [3]

[More about These Modern Day “Apostles and Prophets” In
Section III: The Five-Fold Ministry…The Second Core Doctrine of the Dominionist Movement.

He also says (Misspelling in original. All Emphasis added)

    The greatest fools in the church seem to attract the gretest audiences. Extreme fundamentalists for example take the letter of scripture rather than the spirit, will not accept knowledge outside of the Bible and cannot see the God of history. [4]

So who or what are these Manifest, or as some put it, Transfigured Sons of God?

Transfigured “Sons of God”?
The transfiguration in Matthew 17 refers to the time when Jesus took Peter, James, and John up a mountain to pray, and while He was praying He was transfigured (The Greek word metamorphoō used by Matthew indicates a change in form, rather than simply a change of appearance) in front of their eyes. Jesus’ clothes became dazzling white and He was seen talking to Elijah and Moses, at which time God’s voice came from a cloud calling Him… Son). Undoubtedly the entire incident was designed to be a representation of the manner in which Jesus would one day appear.

However many of those that believe in the Latter Rain/ Manifest Sons of God doctrine say there will be a latter-day overshadowing of believers to transfigure them just as Jesus was transfigured on the mountain. They compare the “bright cloud” that overshadowed Jesus, Peter, James and John (V.5) to the Mantle of Elijah that is to fall upon His people thus creating the “Moses-Elijah ministry”. This ministry has in turn been equated with the  “two-witnesses”, spoken of in the book of Revelation. As George Warnock said in his book Feast of Tabernacles, written during his four year stint at Sharon Bible College in the capacity of a "deacon" [5]. [All Emphasis Added]

    All the events that transpired at the Transfiguration scene are no doubt very significant, and at the same time largely hidden from our view. However as the Day of His Appearing draws nigh, and the scene is reproduced in its fulness in the Body of Christ, its Glory shall far transcend what happened on that occasion.

    The whole transfiguration scene is a beautiful picture of the power and coming of the Lord into the midst of His people in this glorious hour to create the Moses-Elijah ministry. Moses, and Elijah; because this is the day and hour when the old must give way to the new, when death is to be swallowed up in life, when law must be fulfilled in grace. And so Moses typifies the old order of law and death. Elijah speaks of the new order, of grace and life. This is the hour known as the ‘end of the ages’ when the judgments that have been written concerning the Church and the world must be fulfilled on the one hand, and all the glory and power that is written concerning the church must be fulfilled on the other hand. Hence the Moses-Elijah company: the fullness of God in the midst of His people, to do away with the old and establish the new…This is the hour of God’s vengeance upon the earth; but it is also the hour of God’s glory in the midst of His people… [6]

Lets see if I have this right! The “two-witnesses” are not two individuals but a company of overcomers who have the mantle of Elijah fall on them, which transfigures them just as Jesus was transfigured. No wait a moment! I missed something. Some believe that the glory of these overcomers will actually exceed that of Jesus on the Mount.

Far from molding doctrine and beliefs to conform to scripture, this is a extreme case of twisting and/or spiritualizing Scripture to fit doctrine. The two individuals known as the "Two Witnesses" are only mentioned in eleven verses [Revelation 11: 3-13] in the entire Bible, and yet they play a major role in the End Times. Not only are they described as “two olive trees and the two candlesticks, standing before the Lord of the earth” [V. 3]… imagery that is borrowed from Zechariah 4, which refers to two actual individuals, Zerubbabel and Joshua, but the general tenor of all the verses that refer to them are a straight forward description of two exceptional individuals. [See The Two Witnesses]

Especially mind boggling is the sheer audacity of the following statement that the glory of the Manifest Sons of God is even superior to that seen on the face of Moses. This, of course, being the same Moses who God spoke to in person, who brought the plagues down on the Pharaoh’s head, led the Israelites out of Egypt, Spent 40 days on Mount Sinai in the presence of God receiving the Ten Commandments, and last, but certainly not least, was a type of the Messiah Himself.  [See Understanding Prophecy and Typology and  Moses’ Great Messianic Prophecy].

Yet Warnock said…

    Then, saints of God, let us not be like Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not behold the glory on his countenance. And well he might! For that glory was doomed to pass away! But ours is destined to become ever more brilliant, and to shine even more and more unto the Perfect Day. [6]

Join Them or Die: And either you join them or “die in the wilderness” as Warnock put it…

    If men choose to remain where they are in their Christian experience, then this message is not for them. Thank God that they may eat the manna that falls from heaven, and drink out of the water that flows out of the Rock, and receive healing and strength for their journey. But sorry to say they shall die in the wilderness, and shall not see this good heritage of the Spirit. [6]

And Now
If you think this is just something that Warnock wrote years ago and nobody could possibly take it seriously today, you would not be more wrong. Examples abound that Warnock’s delusions of grandeur have continued well into the 21st century.

Rick Joyner says…

    ''In the near future the church will not be looking back at the first century church with envy because of the great exploits of those days, but all will be saying that He certainly did save His best wine for last. The most glorious times in all of history have now come upon us. You who have dreamed of one day being able to talk with Peter, John and Paul are going to be surprised to find that they have all been waiting to talk to you! You have been chosen to see the harvest, the fruit of the seed that they were planting.'' [7].

Bob Jones has been described as “special”, a “Father of the Faith and Poppa to the Prophets”. In his vision ‘The Sands of Time” he says that he and his cohorts are greater than Elijah, Elisha and all the prophets of the Old Testament. [See Footnote I for Details]. And who is Bob Jones? As said by discernment-ministries….

    It is important to note that the "prophecies" of Bob Jones formed the basis for many of the teachings in Kansas City which permeated the Vineyard. Bob Jones was recognized as having a "very high level of anointing". Even though he has been disfellowshipped and disciplined by the Vineyard, his tapes are still available through the Anaheim Vineyard ministry. His teachings are yet to be refuted. He taught that children are the "elected seed" generation, hand-picked in heaven from the best of every bloodline that's ever been, and offspring of the original apostles. They are the 'chosen generation of all history' who will eventually form the Bride of Christ. These “Elected Seeds" all make up part of the New Breed. This New Breed is an elite group of believers endowed with supernatural power that enables them to be part of the dread warriors that God is raising up in our generation. [8]

    And why was Jones “disfellowshipped and disciplined by the Vineyard”? Perhaps because of his little habit of using his so-called prophetic gift as a ruse to get women to disrobe. [See Footnote II]

Another, example is found on a site called sonsofgod.com, which has apparently been in existence for quite a few years although they “do not represent a huge organization” nor “hold local meetings of any sort”.. The About Us page says the goal behind their website is “to see the maturing of the sons of God”, [All Emphasis Added]

    We are just one voice, speaking a word in due season for those who are entering this day of change…  Just like the Pharisee objected to the Lord saying the Father is in Him.  It is the same thing now, the fundamentalist objects, willing to believe God in Christ, but Christ actually coming forth in us they are not willing to believe.

The Statement of Faith Page adds..

    What do we believe  -  That we have the mind of Christ and as such, we are limitless.  We have no limitation. No boundary. Neither a beginning, nor an end, we are of the order of Melchezidek.  All things are possible to us, who believe. We have been brought forth for this day, for this hour and for this moment. We were with the Father, at the dawn of creation, when the Sons of God sang at the dawn of morning. And He has brought us forth, by His will, out of His heart, to be as it were, a new creation.  We are His delight, we are His family, the Father’s family. (Job 38:7)

And [All Emphasis Added]

    What do we believe  -  that there is no separation between us and Christ and the Father.  The absolute interpenetration of God and man. The kingdom, within. For us to live is Christ, for us to speak, is Christ – as He was in this world, so are we. And thru the lens of tears we see His kingdom, we see His countenance, and are changed from glory unto glory. (2 Corinthians 3:18) The mantle of sonship is here, and He has laid upon us His kingdom. The Sons of God, the Sons of Light, His seers and priests, we are here, it is time, and we step out of the confines of this physical plane into the unlimitedness of His spirit. [9]

Sons of Thunder says the following about Joel’s Army

    They will possess the spirit of might like Samson or David’s Mighty Men. These will be similar to many of the “would-be” martyrs throughout church history – some of their bodies were incombustible to flames, survived boiling oil, or continued to live for a time, even after they were beheaded!

    Many will understand their authority even over the natural elements of this earth. They will stop tidal waves, speak to objects and command them to move – someone will even literally speak to a mountain, and it will throw itself into the sea. [9b]

Great Swelling Words: And the egos just keep getting more and more inflated, putting God Almighty is on the church’s timetable. Remember Peter’s warning about great swelling words of vanity in 2 Peter 2:18? Well here are a few of those “swelling words”.

Don Paulk, brother of Earl Paulk, who was for many years at the forefront of the Kingdom Theology Movement, proclaims: 

      God’s timepiece is not an identifiable ethnic group. God’s timepiece is His Church, spiritual Israel!…But don’t expect the “rapture” to rescue you…If you want to bring Christ back to Earth, you can do it…WE CAN DO IT!…We hold the key to His return. [10]

This is echoed by John Crowder of Sons of Thunder who says

    “God is Waiting on Us… I recently had a dream in which the Lord Himself leaned over to me and asked, “When will this generation come?” I was not asking Him; He was asking me. We are not waiting on God to supernaturally bring this revival generation to pass. God is waiting on you and I to become who we already are. To manifest the fullness of the Godhead that already dwells within us”. [9b]

Paul Cain, a “prophet” of God who recently admitted to homosexuality and alcoholism, carries ego to unprecedented heights…

    "No prophet or apostle who ever lived equaled the power of these individuals in this great army of the Lord in these last days. No one ever had it. Not even Elijah, or Peter, or Paul, or anyone else enjoyed the power that is going to rest upon this great army" [11].

In yet another twist, some of the leaders of this movement believe that …

The Manifest Sons of God are the “last-day apostles and prophets”

And they go to great lengths to try and prove this. Not the least of the efforts to propagate and defend this theological fairy story comes from the pen of...

Bill Hamon, founder of Christian International School of Theology claims that in 1979, God challenged Dominion-Hamonhim “to add the "School of the Holy Spirit" to the CI ministry. This "school" served as a "classroom ministry" to teach, train, and activate individuals in the gifts of the Holy Spirit”, and that three years later, in 1983, he “received the revelation that God was going to raise up a great end-time company of prophets to restore the ministries of the prophet and the apostle”. His site also says…

    “God began giving Dr. Hamon both a vision and a burden for calling forth, activating, and maturing that great company of prophets. CIMA was changed to Christian International Network of Prophetic Ministries (CI NPM) with the purpose of fulfilling that vision. CI NPM grew nationwide with scores of ministers and churches. Hundreds of prophets and prophetic ministers were called forth and activated into prophetic ministry.” [12]

C Peter Wagner said that Bill Hamon’s book Apostles, Prophets and the Coming Moves of God, was “a thrill to read”.

Yet anyone reading through page two should have taken the book back to the store and demanded their money back. On second thought, returning the book would mean someone else could have bought that particular copy, so perhaps the better option would have been to burn it. Bill Hamon manages to, in just one page (Pg. 2) of his book, break every single commonsense guideline to understanding Biblical text. While it is amazing that a man who is obviously intelligent could be so completely deluded, it is even more amazing that his books are bought by thousands of people all over the country and that he is regarded as a spiritual leader.

However this page is confined to Hamon’s interpretation of Romans 8:19 and Hebrews 11:39-40… verses he uses in his effort to prove the Manifest Sons of God fairy tale. Four specific examples of Hamon’s absolutely ridiculous interpretation of Scripture from page 2 of his book have been dealt with in Part XIII: More Examples of The Dominion Leadership’s Inventive Interpretations of Scripture]

As Hamon says ...[All Emphasis Added]

    The whole creation is waiting for the last generation Church. The earth and all of creation are waiting for the manifestation of God’s last-day apostles and prophets and fully restored Church. “For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God” (Romans 8:19 NKJV). When the Church is fully restored, then the saints will receive their final redemption, the immortalization of their mortal bodies. When this happens, then the natural creation of plants and animals will  be delivered from their bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Bill Hamon then quotes Hebrews 11:39-40 (the last two verses of the chapter) which says

    “And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us”.

And goes on to write..

    “all of those who have died in the faith since the beginning of time are cheering us on from the balcony of heaven. They cannot be complete without the full obedience of the last-generation church… the spirits of just saints have been made perfect but are waiting for the final act of redemption at the first resurrection. But they cannot receive it until we, the last-generation church, fulfill our destiny. [13]

Romans 8:19:
The verse in Roman 8 about creation waiting for the revealing of the sons of God is one of the most beloved verses of the Dominionist movement since they believe, as Hamon says above, that this verse directly refers to the “last-day apostles and prophets”.

However, the book of Romans was written by Paul to the Roman believers. The eighth chapter focuses on the role of the indwelling Holy Spirit that sets all believers free from the law to serve God, Verse 14 being very clear that…

    “… as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. [Romans 8:14]

In one sense all human beings are God's "offspring" (Acts 17:28). Even Adam was called God's "son" (Luke 3:38). However the terms Sons of God and Children of God are used interchangeably several times in the New Testament and very obviously refers to all Christians, not an elite group of overcomers. [All Emphasis Added]

    Behold what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called children of God; and such we are. For this cause the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we children of God, and it is not yet made manifest what we shall be. We know that, if he shall be manifested, we shall be like him; for we shall see him even as he is. [1 John 3:1-2’]

    Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called sons of God. [Matthew 5:9]

    For ye are all sons of God, through faith, in Christ Jesus. [Galatians 3:26]

    But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name: [John 1:12]

    that ye may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom ye are seen as lights in the world, [Philippians 2:15]

Hebrews 11:39-40: Neither Hebrews 11:39-40, nor any other verse in Scripture, says that the saints that have died cannot receive redemption until we fulfill our destiny. To teach this is to go far afield from what the author of Hebrews actually says. Analyzing the verse which I have, for convenience, divided into three parts.

    1) And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 2) God having provided something better for us, 3) that they should not be made perfect apart from us”.

Received Not The Promise: The whole point of Hebrews 11 is to encourage the Christians in Jerusalem to, in the midst of very trying circumstances, hold on to things that had been promised but were yet unseen. Chapter 11 is a tribute to many of the pillars of the Old Testament who’s faith was based on the promises of God and the faithfulness of the One who had promised, although none of them lived to see the fulfillment of the Divine promises, fulfilled in the Savior [See Acts 13:23, 32-33]. The author is endeavoring to convince the brethren that they too needed a hopeful forward-looking faith modeled on the faith exhibited by their Hebrew forefathers, who were willing to endure even unto death.

As the Lord Jesus told His disciples, "Many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them, and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them" (Matthew 13:17). Yet, these pillars of Scripture continued to look unwaveringly ahead, through many centuries, to a Savior that did not come in their lifetime, while we look back to a Savior who has already come.

The role models of the Old Testament were held up as an exemplary example for the Jerusalem Christians to imitate. They too were to look forward to the future fulfillment and restoration of all things as the opening verse in chapter 12 makes clear… [Emphasis Added]

    Therefore let us also, seeing we are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.

Some Better Thing:
Obviously the “something better” that God has provided for is Jesus Christ. Everything prior to the historical Jesus was just shadow or type of what was yet to come.

Apart From Us They Should Not Be Made Perfect:
To understand what the author of Hebrews is talking about here requires taking a few steps back to the previous chapter, the first few verses of which speak about the blood of bulls and goats [V.4]. And the priests who day after day ministered and “offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, the which can never take away sins” [V.11].

It then goes on to speak of Jesus’ one time sacrifice for sins, after which He “sat down on the right hand of God, henceforth expecting till his enemies be made the footstool of his feet.” [Hebrews 10:12-13].  Verse 14 then says

    For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. [Hebrews 10:14]

Note the continuity of the verses which compare and contrast the never ending sacrifices offered by the Hebrew priests with what Jesus did. Everything He did was done once, never to be repeated …He

  • Made One sacrifice  
  • Sat down on the right hand of God
  • Henceforth expecting till his enemies be made the footstool of his feet
  • By one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified

So although the great men and women of the Old Testament did not receive the promises, but looked forward to them in faith, God did fulfill those promises and provide a “better thing” that perfected every sanctified person at one time with one sacrifice. Apart from us they were not made perfect.

The verses in Hebrews have absolutely nothing to do with The dead saints waiting on the last-generation church to be made complete. Besides which…

And Apart From Us They Shall not Be Resurrected.
Similarly all God’s people will be gathered in and resurrected together at one time, when Jesus returns.

    For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we that are alive, that are left unto the coming of the Lord, shall in no wise precede them that are fallen asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. [1 Thessalonians 4:15-17. Emphasis Added]

Comparably, the martyrs in Revelation 6 are told to wait a little longer until all their brethren were killed just as they were, before God avenges their blood. He could, if He wanted, wreak vengeance at any time but chooses to do it at one time.

    And when he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of them that had been slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: and they cried with a great voice, saying, How long, O Master, the holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And there was given them to each one a white robe; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little time, until their fellow-servants also and their brethren, who should be killed even as they were, should have fulfilled their course. [Revelation 6:9-11].

Francis Frangipane…
was the founding pastor of River of Life Ministries in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, anDominion-Francis-Frangipaned even now continues to be “mentor to Lead Pastor Steve Irwin and a spiritual advisor to the Pastors, Elders and Deacons”. [14] In 2002, he also launched an international, online school called In Christ's Image Training (ICIT) with students in over seventy nations. [14b]

Frangipane has been hailed by Rick Joyner as " one of those few, like the Apostle John, who leans on the Lord's breast and listens to His heart..." makes several statements in his book The Days of His Presence [Winds of Fire (June 2000)] all of which are intended to prove the Dominionist idea that that there will be a day of power and glory that precedes the rapture. However none of them do. Some of the connections he makes are completely unwarranted and others are tenuous at best.

He starts with what he calls …

A Strange Question

    Matthew, chapter 24, is perhaps the most frequently quoted text in the Bible regarding end-time events. The disciples asked the Lord, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3)….“the question seems plain enough on the surface, but a deeper look provokes investigation. What was really in their minds when they asked Jesus about the sign of His coming? Up to this moment the disciples has not accepted or understood that Jesus was leaving. Thus it seems unlikely that they would so casually query Him about His return”….

    …“prior to this conversation there had been no mention of the gathering together of the saints in any of Jesus’ teachings.” What then were the disciples really thinking when they asked about Christ’s coming? For if they had never grasped that He was leaving, and they were ignorant of the rapture, why were they asking about His return. [Page 61]

In the first place the disciples did not “casually query” Jesus about His return.

The Israelites had known oppression for most of their history, and hungered for time when Jerusalem would experience God's promises of peace and they would live in safety and prosperity. They knew, from the writings of the prophets, that this period would be ushered in by a Messiah who would overthrow their oppressors, reestablish the throne of David and forever restore the faded glory of the nation. The Jews had for centuries believed that all Jews would then return to Jerusalem which would become the center of the world, with all nations coming to Jerusalem to worship the King who would dwell in the Temple described in Ezekiel 40-48. There is no doubt that they looked with great anticipation to the fulfillment of the words of Isaiah….

    "Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even forever." [Isaiah 9:6-7]

Then along came Jesus who healed people, raised the dead and fed multitudes but in who’s presence they heard and experienced things that could not but lead them to believe that this was the prophesied Messiah. For example…

    In Matthew 17:1-13 Peter, James and John experienced the glorious transfiguration of Jesus and were made to realize that understood that Elijah had already come in the form of John the Baptist. (In Jewish belief Elijah would not only come as a forerunner of the Messiah and lead the people to repentance, but would present the Messiah to the Jews. [15])

    In Matthew 19:28 Jesus told the disciples they would sit on 12 thrones judging Israel "when the Son of Man sits on the throne of his glory" .

    In Matthew 21:8-9 the disciples witnessed Jesus’ ride into Jerusalem when the people spread garment and branched in His path and cried “Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord”, literally declaring He was the Messiah.

However the tension between Jesus and the Jewish leaders was obviously reaching fever pitch.

    In Matthew 16:21 Jesus said that he had to go to Jerusalem and “suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and the third day be raised up”.

    In Matthew 21:43 Jesus told the chief priests and elders that the kingdom of God would be taken away from them and given to “a nation bringing forth the fruits”.

    In Matthew 23 Jesus was scathing in His criticism of the Pharisees and said they were no different from their forefathers who had slain the prophets, since they would do exactly the same thing. He closed with the words “Your house (The Temple) is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord" (vv. 38-39).

This last statement must have appeared to the disciples to be leading up to a showdown in Jerusalem between Jesus and the religious authorities, when He would establish his messianic kingdom, which the religious leaders would be no part of. And it is more than likely considering Matthew 21:8-9 (above) that they may have believed this was why they were in Jerusalem.

They who believed Jesus was that Messiah, were naturally anxious to know if the "time of the end" had come and quite understandably were pushing for specific answers, asking the Lord the question… "Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the age?" [Matthew 24:3]. However…

… The Greek word parousia translated coming has become mainstream Christian terminology used to refer to Jesus’ second coming to set up His kingdom. It is true that the New Testament authors followed Jesus’ suit in using parousia to refer to His return, however the word is not used in such a limited sense in the New Testament. In Greek the word simply means ‘presence’ as evinced by the following verses. Note that in Philippians 2:12, Paul uses parousia (his presence) in contrast with apousia (his absence)

    And I rejoice at the coming of Stephanas and Fortunatus and Achaicus: for that which was lacking on your part they supplied. [1Corinthians 16:17]

    For, His letters, they say, are weighty and strong; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech of no account. [2 Corinthians 10:10]

    So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence (parousia) only, but now much more in my absence (apousia), work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; [Philippians 2:12] 

When the disciples asked about Jesus’ coming, it is unlikely that they were thinking in terms of His leaving and returning. In their thinking, the Messiah would come and immediately establish his government in Jerusalem, which would last forever. So they didn't have a "second coming" in mind, but were probably referring to the Lord's permanent presence in His enthronement as Israel’s king.

Note that even after the resurrection the disciples still believe that Jesus was about to set up His kingdom on earth. Acts 1:6 ‘So when they met together, they asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”’

So why didn’t the disciples  consider the Lord's statement in Matthew 16:21, when He said that he had to go to Jerusalem and “suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and the third day be raised up”? [Compare John 12:24]. However this did not fit into the scenario they believed was true.  The disciples thought they had reached the end of the age… The Jewish people were experiencing tribulation, Elijah had already come in the form of John the Baptist therefore the Messiah had to be ready to destroy His enemies and inaugurate the kingdom of God in all its power.

All they could see was deliverance and glory and, to their way of thinking, Jesus’ life, not death, fit in perfectly. What they didn't understand was that the Messiah had to die and a long period of time would elapse before He returned.

The Destruction of The Temple and The End of The Age

Although the Temple had once been destroyed, nothing could appear more permanent than this site which had been used for worship for nearly a thousand years. Herod had rebuilt and enlarged the temple which was a massive fortress like structure consisting of more than one building on a flat area atop the mountain. It was made of stones, some of which were easily forty feet long and adorned with beautiful stones and offerings [Luke 21:5]. The Temple must have seemed like a symbol of permanence, a place God had specially chosen to signify His rule in the world.

Catastrophic language was often used figuratively in the Old Testament to depict God’s devastating judgment and subsequent destruction of powerful and sinful nations that opposed God and oppressed His people. (See, for example, Isaiah 13:9-10 … referring to the destruction of Babylon, and Ezekiel 32:7-8 describing the destruction of Egypt).

However, to these four disciples, when Jesus said that one stone wouldn't be left one top of another, this seemed an event of such magnitude that they could not but associate it with the end of all things as their words indicate. They asked “…what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the age?”. They used the Greek phrase sunteleias tou (used some five times in Matthew and once in Hebrews). Sunteleias means entire or completion and aionos means age.

Youngs Literal Translation renders the question…

    Tell us, when shall these be? and what is the sign of thy presence, and of the full end of the age?'

The Disciples Impression of The Kingdom

    “To participate in the time of glory was the compelling motive in the lives of Jesus’ followers. Of course, they viewed the kingdom of God as a realm they were currently in, but they knew it would expand into worldwide fulfillment” (Mark 1:15: Matthew 13:31-32; 36-43). [Page 64]

Actually the disciples did not know the kingdom of God was going to expand into a “world wide fulfillment”. They were under the impression that the Gospel message was for the Jews and that Jesus was going to restore their nation to their former glory. Even after His resurrection (before He was taken up into Heaven) they asked Jesus….  Lord, dost thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? [Acts 1:6]. In the words of William Loader

    “Their expectations had been raised. Jesus had declared God’s promised kingdom was at hand. He had been rejected and brutally put to death on the cross. But God had raised him from the dead. He was vindicated. He was right. The kingdom is at hand. But when? [16]

It wasn’t until  Peters vision on a roof top in Joppa, as related in Acts 10:9-16, when they realized that God was going to extend salvation to the Gentiles as well.

Jesus and The Rapture

    “Jesus explained that the kingdom would undergo a period of defilement, where tares and wheat grew together (Matthew 13:41-42). However, a final cleansing would occur during the last years of the age. With no mention yet of the rapture, Jesus told His disciples to expect a time when the “righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father”: (Matthew 13:43). [Page 64]

Frangipane says there is no mention of the Rapture before the righteous shine forth..  However, in Matthew 13, beginning in verse 18, Jesus relates the parable of the sower…  telling us that the good seed is the sons of the kingdom sowed by the Son of man, while the tares are the sons of the evil one which are sowed by the devil [Vs. 37-39]. A harvest, as every one knows is the gathering in of the crops which were, at some time previously, sown as seeds, and in this case, the reapers are angels [V.39].

In verse 49, Jesus draws the analogy to the end times, saying … “So shall it be in the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the righteous”. Revelation 14:15-16 says

     “And another angel came out from the temple, crying with a great voice to him that sat on the cloud, Send forth thy sickle, and reap: for the hour to reap is come; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And he that sat on the cloud cast his sickle upon the earth; and the earth was reaped”.

Jesus also said… The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that cause stumbling, and them that do iniquity [Mat 13:41], and “First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn." (Matthew 13:30). This indicates that the tares are separated and symbolically ‘bound’ in some way, before the believers are gathered into His barn.

The separating of the tares and wheat, the binding of the tares in bundles and the gathering in of the good crop (also called The Rapture) are all part of almost the last end time event after which the “righteous will shine  forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father: (Matthew 13:43). [For Details See That Earth Shaking Seventh Trumpet]

The Glory The Disciples Anticipated

    “James and John articulated the desire of all the disciples when they asked, “Grant that we may sit in Your glory, one on Your right, and one on Your left” (Mark 10:37)  They all knew the glory was coming; who would possess the biggest share was what filled their minds. Could it be that this shining “forth as the sun” and sitting in the Lords’ glory is what the disciples anticipated during the Parousia?

    They saw the Days Of His Glory: Before you reject this idea consider: The disciples who asked Jesus about the time of the end were Pater, James, John and Andrew (Mark 13:3). The first three had been with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration when the Lord “shone like  the sun” (Matthew 17:2)” [Page 64]

The incident when James and John asked Jesus to grant that they may sit on either side of Him, in His glory, is repeated in both Mark 10:37 and Matthew 20:20. Since there is absolutely no indication that Jesus told them (or that they believed) they would also be transfigured, it is more than likely that their request stemmed from them anticipating a literal interpretation of Matthew 19:28 when Jesus said unto them …

    Verily I say unto you, that ye who have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit on the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel

Also note that Andrew was not among those on the Mount of Transfiguration which makes it unlikely that he even knew about what had taken place, considering that Jesus had commanded the three that were there to “Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen from the dead”. [Matthew 17:9].

The Transfiguration

    “Immediately prior to the Transfiguration, Jesus told His disciples, “Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who shall not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power” (Mark 9:1)

    Jesus plainly stated that some of His disciples would see “kingdom of God after it has come with power” The very next verse connects what Jesus just said with the Transfiguration; “And six days later, Jesus took with Him Peter and James and John, and brought them up to a high mountain by themselves. And He was transfigured before then” (Mark 9:2)

    Jesus truly showed “some” of His disciples what the kingdom of God would look like in the day of power. This is significant; The disciples who questioned Jesus concerning the sign of His Presence are those who were with Him on the Mount of Transfiguration.

    Let me point out that, in the rapture, we shall be changed from earthly bodies to heavenly bodies. At that time, Paul tells us, we will put on a nature that is similar to Christ’s (see Philippians 3:21). John, who was with Jesus during the Transfiguration, tells us that “it has not appeared as yet what we shall be” (1 John 3:2). On the Mount of Transfiguration, Jesus revealed the day of power and glory that precedes the rapture. During the rapture, our mortal bodies will put on immortality. But on the Mount of Transfiguration, though filled with glory, Jesus still had a body that could suffer and die”. [Pgs 64-5]

Frangipane says, referring to the  Transfiguration, that “Jesus truly showed “some” of His disciples what the kingdom of God would look like in the day of power. However this is not exactly true. The belief that the Transfiguration was a fulfillment of Jesus’ prophecy is largely founded on the fact that, in each of the synoptic Gospels, it is the very next event mentioned, taking place just a week later.  Matthew and Mark connect the two accounts by simply using the word "and" while Luke uses "and . . . it came about".

However the problem lies in two areas. Jesus’ statement that some disciples would be alive seems a little disproportionate when one is talking of a period of just one week. It is a phrase far more suited to a longer period of time…  In other words, it just seems like an odd way to refer to three of the twelve disciples, who witness the Transfiguration a mere six days later. Also, Jesus saying that some disciples would be alive indicates that others would not be. We know all the disciples lived longer than the next seven days, through the Transfiguration.

Therefore it is very likely that the Transfiguration was NOT a fulfillment of Jesus’’ prophecy that “some of those who are standing here shall not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power”. So what did Jesus mean? [See The Kingdom When?]

Frangipane also quotes John, who was with Jesus during the Transfiguration and who said… “it has not appeared as yet what we shall be” (1 John 3:2). However he does not quote the verse in it’s entirety, which makes it clear that It has nothing to do with “the day of power and glory that precedes the rapture”.

    Beloved, now are we children of God, and it is not yet made manifest what we shall be. We know that, if he shall be manifested, we shall be like him; for we shall see him even as he is. [1 John 3:2] 

John is referring to the second coming, since that is the only time we “shall see him even as he is”.

The Second Core Doctrine of the Dominionist Movement is ...

The Five-Fold Ministry: The Latter Rain brought in a new focus on the spiritual elements of Christianity including personal prophecy, the restoration of the five-fold ministry (apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher) mentioned in Ephesians 4:11-12, and a different end time emphasis. It is believed that under the rule of these prophets and apostles, the church will be ''perfected'':

    "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ."

While I have absolutely no idea where he gets his information from, Bill Hamon seems very sure as to where we are in this fantastical tale, even outlining the steps that are yet to take place…

    we have three more movements yet to take place. So we are right now in the Prophetic-Apostolic Movement but then somewhere along 2012 or 2010 the preachers will start getting on the ball and teaching and training the saints. Then we will have the Saint's Movement that will demonstrate to every nation the Kingship of Jesus Christ. Then we are going to have the Army of the Lord demonstrate the power of God and go forth as mighty warriors and shake whole nations. Then we will have the Kingdom Establishment Movement. The Kingdom will be established and Jesus will return and change us in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye so we can finish the job with our immortal bodies. That's the purpose and identity of the movement of God for the Church. [17]

One of the pivotal and catalyzing forces behind this Prophetic-Apostolic Movement is C Peter Wagner and his New Apostolic Reformation (NAR).

 001orange Section III:  The Five-Fold Ministry… The Second Core Doctrine of the Dominionist Movement. Introducing C. Peter Wagner… The Spider in The Middle of A Very Large Web. New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), Size and Growth, Wasilla Assembly of God and the Juneau Christian Church, 21st Century “Apostles”


Foot Note I:
Bob Jones’ vision of The Sands Of Time

    “The Lord took me to a place and I saw the great prophets of the Bible, I saw Elijah, Elisha, I saw all the prophets of the Old Testament, I saw the apostle John, the martyrs and they had all be told of the Lord to stick their hands into the sands of time. As I watched them they would pick up a shoe box… one was the apostle Paul and he brought this show box up and he said “it’s my time”. The  apostle Paul  believed that what is going to happen now was going to happen in his time, and he opened the show box and it was empty. And so another prophet come behind him and the Lord said stick your hands into the sands of time…

    It came my time and He said “put your hands in the sands of time and pull up the shoe box” and I said “Why Lord, everybody else has done it and they were empty shoe box” and He said “Do as I told you”.  So I put my hands in the sands of time and I pulled the shoe box up and I opened it and I was very shocked for it had letters in it, and it said  “Greetings, you have been inducted into the army of God.” But these white envelopes, these induction notices they didn’t have a stamp on it and at this time in the United States, if I remember right, it cost 11 cents I believe to mail a letter. And the Lord says “I will mail these letters when it costs twenty cents to mail a letter. Well nobody believed this cause in the States at that time nobody believed that stamps would ever go up again, cause it had gone up from three cents to eleven. 

    But then on October the 13th of ‘81 it cost 20 cents to mail a letter. And the Lord said “Everyone that was conceived, that was in the room or nine months before (unintelligible) was in the Army of the Lord ..the first would be leaders and the second would be the greatest army that nothing could ever stop., and when they reach the age of maturity I’m going to begin to release them in power ..They’re an army that is my army and they cannot be stopped. I will arm them out of my armory in Heaven ..there’s no gift that I will deny them. They will literally pull down the warehouse of God, and they’ll have no fear of the enemy whatsoever. These are the ones that will glorify me beyond anything that has ever been for they are mine, they will represent me in my holiness, in my compassion”.”  [18] [PLACE IN TEXT]

Foot Note II:
Bob Jones’ Sexual Misconduct. (Excerpt from The Olathe Daily News, Nov. 13, 1991)

    “Bob Jones, an associate of the Olathe Worship Center of the Metro Vineyard Fellowship of Kansas City, confessed Saturday to sexual misconduct with two women, who attend a Vineyard church in the Kansas City area, said Kenn Gulliksen, North American coordinator for the Association of Vineyard Churches. Jones, 63, was removed from his church duties for an undetermined amount of time, Gulliksen said….

    Gulliksen would not elaborate on the incident, other than to say that during the past six months Jones had “delved into sexual misconduct” but that it did not involve sexual intercourse. Jones, who is not an ordained minister, has been with the Olathe church for about a year and a half and in the Kansas City area Vineyard churches since 1983, he said.

    Jones is considered a nationally recognized prophetic leader by the church. The incident occurred while Jones was ministering prophetic teachings, his supernatural gift of knowing and preaching the words of God, Gulliksen said. Usually these situations are done with several people in attendance, including a church pastor. This incident did not occur in that context, he said….

    He said the church follows the religious doctrine that when a leader falls into sin, he should be rebuked publicly so that the others may take warning. Because of Jones’ national visibility and ministry, the National Board for the Association of Vineyard Churches in Anaheim, led by John R. Wimber, issued a letter Tuesday to all of its churches explaining the incident.

    “The sins for which Bob has been removed from ministry include using his gifts to manipulate people for his personal desires, sexual misconduct, rebelling against pastoral authority, slandering leaders and the promotion of bitterness within the body of christ,” the letter stated.” [19] [PLACE IN TEXT]

Todd Bentley has in the past talked about his first meeting with Bob Jones whom he described as a senior prophet from whom he received “an impartation” and with whom he travelled to the third heaven. [20] [See Todd Bentleys Circus Side Show From Hell]

End Notes
All URL’s Accessed December 2009

[1] The Latter Rain Revival. http://watch.pair.com/rain.html

[2] Revival Library Pensketches...Stanley Frodsham. http://www.revival-library.org/pensketches/am_pentecostals/frodsham.html

[3] http://latter-rain.com/escha/manifestsons.htm

[4] http://latter-rain.com/general/]

[5] http://www.georgewarnock.com/bio.html

[6] George Warnock, “The Feast Of Tabernacles”, Chapter 14 - Tabernacles - The Feast Of His Appearing.  

[7] Rick Joyner, The Harvest, Whitaker House (June 1997) p. 26

[8] http://www.discernment-ministries.org/NL_Oct-Dec1994.pdf

[9] http://www.sonsofgod.com/A%20Statement%20of%20Faith.html

[9b] John Crowder. When Will Joel's Army Emerge? Part 1.

[10] Don Paulk, “Harvester”, (June 1984) As quoted in Anointing - or Apostasy? The Latter Rain Legacy by Charles S. Graves. http://intotruth.org/res/latterrain.pdf

[11] Paul Cain. As quoted in Counterfeit Revival by Hank Hanegraaff. p. 160

[12] http://www.christianinternational.org/

[13] Apostles, Prophets and the Coming Moves of God: God's End-Time Plans for His Church and Planet Earth. Destiny Image Publishers (July 1, 1997). Page 235.

[14] http://www.riveroflife.org/leadership.asp

[14b] http://www.frangipane.org/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=FaithHighway/10000/1000/728/greetings

[15] http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?letter=E&artid=245

[16] William Loader. Issues from the Acts of the Apostles.
 http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu .au/~loader/BeingtheChurch1.htm

[17] Dr. Bill Hamon answers your questions about the eternal Church. By Jennifer LeClaire

[18] http://www.divinerevelations.info/dreams_and_visions/Bob_Jones.htm

[19] http://www.religionnewsblog.com/16929/minister-removed-after-confession-of-sexual-misconduct

[20] Bob Jones, Patricia King & Todd Bentley. http://www.coldtube.com/videos/WSTK-ITV-Bob-Jones-Patricia-King-Todd-Bentley-59550.html


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